Giving a Cluck

Bravo to Dan Cathy for standing by his principles. Just hope his company can take the hit to its bottom line.

The right side of history.

It’s a phrase that has taken on greater meaning in the last few months, for what feels like the first time in my generation.

In the wake of the endorsement of gay marriage by the president and the Supreme Court’s backing of health care reform, it is one that makes a few of us feel good. Smug almost.

(I also just saw “The Help” for the first time; so being on the right side of history took on another meaning.)

Having grown up in the 70s and 80s, I am among the generation that was taught to be inclusive and recognize the rights of others in the wake of the civil rights movement. Don’t prejudge anyone, was my father’s advice – you can hate them once you get to know them. And not being weighed down with a lot of religious dogma, I never felt the need to prejudge on behalf of God or any other higher power.

So it is with great interest to see how Chick-fil-A’s president, Dan Cathy, has handled the .

Hey, the guy’s entitled to his opinions. Agree or disagree, good on him for having the brass ones to speak his mind. But what I want to know is: what does it have to do with chicken? And how is what he said, as the president of a national company, good for the bottom line?

Sure, it’s part of the whole company’s profile. Carrying on the traditions of the family-run, Christian-values business. Closed Sundays and living by the rules they preach. It's something I've never had a problem with. More power to them. Plenty of businesses do that. In-N-Out, with its Bible verses on the packaging, does. And no one’s breathing down their neck telling them that they’re religious zealots and having people vow never to eat there again.

The difference is that the other businesses don’t go on the radio and say we that a percentage of our population are “shaking their fist” at God, and that the way they live their life is wrong and should be corrected.

So by speaking out -- seemingly on behalf of his company -- against gay marriage, and gays in general, not only did Dan Cathy upset a large portion of his customers – and promotional partners – but is opening his company up to the threat of a lawsuit. Can you imagine the next time a gay person is turned down for, or fired from, a job at Chick-fil-A? That’s a discrimination suit waiting to happen.

And as far as Cathy’s other words, hoping that God will have mercy on this generation, well, I think He just did.

He just gave us a reason not to eat Chick-fil-A’s bland, overpriced chicken sandwiches any more.

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andy August 01, 2012 at 12:09 AM
And so what?
Diana August 01, 2012 at 01:00 AM
Oh Andy, you just like to argue for the sake of arguing...now what came first, the chicken or the egg?
Steve August 01, 2012 at 01:27 AM
Discrimination in the workplace pertains to employees
Teller of Truth August 01, 2012 at 03:02 AM
OMG... how many people are you going to pretend to be? I'm losin count here!
Teller of Truth August 01, 2012 at 03:04 AM
Don't make Andy cry! She's ruining her make up!
Teller of Truth August 01, 2012 at 03:10 AM
Seriously people.....do you know how long it takes this self professed "tranny Andy" to put on her face paint? I'm sure its hard for heshe to keep typing on here with all sorts of clown make up in hisher eyes! (BTW how do you spell self deprecation andyhow?)
Teller of Truth August 01, 2012 at 03:17 AM
Alright Andy, let me be the first one to come out and say......ANDY I JUST CAN'T STAND YOU! And no dear, it has nothing to do with being the self professed "gay black tranny cross dresser athesist worst nightmare" that you wrote you were. It has to do with your ignorance & hatred. No code there!
Teller of Truth August 01, 2012 at 03:19 AM
Now Andy, haven't we asked you politely not to talk about "rears"? Keep your obsessions in the closet where they belong!
Wildomar Resident August 01, 2012 at 03:33 PM
Andy, You are in need of some serious anger management classes my friend! In response to your comment, I would like to point out that in a posting at 11:42am Monday, YOU said "Gays have a problem with a company executive using their position to promote an agenda....", so when I say I support the President of Chick Fil A voicing his opinion, it's because people like you don't believe in that right. Yours was not the only posting of that nature. Second, I have nothing against gays, just like I don't have anything against people of a different color or people of a different religion. As long as people obey the laws of the land and let me live in peace, I wish them all well and treat everyone the same. Re-read your response to my comments and you will see that it is you who stereotypes and promotes hate. I believe gays have the right to ask for equality in things like marriage rights, but I do take offense to the rants of discrimination and hate mongering, when things don't go their way. There are plenty of things that I would like to have happen that would favor me. I do what I can to effect positive change and I hold no grudge against individuals, when these initiatives fail.
Charles Ferrell August 01, 2012 at 11:40 PM
Decided to make a statement in support of free speech today and tried to go to a Chick-Fil-A in Redlands (the closest one I knew about). I am really restricting my diet right now, so a breaded and fried chicken fillet on a bun didn't seem like a good idea, but I checked the menu on the internet and saw they had a couple of wraps that seemed healthy and the soup really looked good and healthy. I tried to go, but the line for the drive-thru was 30 or more cars, running well into the street and the line to walk in was more than 100 people long. I passed, but I wasn't needed to make a statement. I personally have no problem with gay unions -- I just don't see how gay unions diminish me personally in any way -- but I do have a real problem with the hate talk directed at Chick-Fil-A over the 92-year-old's support of traditional marriage. Take that, hate mongers out there. A lot of people who support gays but don't support hate tried Chick-Fil-A today.
Guy McCarthy (Editor) August 02, 2012 at 03:42 AM
GALLERY: Lines at Redlands Chick-fil-A Support Chain Exec's View on Marriage http://patch.com/A-w9p8 Includes perspective from Wolf Clark, 53, and his wife, Rebecca, 47, of Yucaipa, came on Clark's 2006 Street Bob Harley-Davidson to add their support. "I ride with Black Sheep Motorcycle Ministry, out of Murrieta. The founder is Marty Edwards, Slow Dogg."
jill smith August 02, 2012 at 04:33 AM
It was the same situation in Murietta, and Temecula. There was at least 90 people in line at both places, and the cars in the drive thrus in both places were backed up into the street.
Wildomar Resident August 02, 2012 at 03:50 PM
So getting back to Bill Norris' original blog post, perhaps at least one of his questions have now been answered. "How is what he said good for the bottom line?". A company that was sitting with a very small share of the fast food market just got some of the best prime time coverage and name recognition for free. And unlike Bil's comment that stated "It upset a large portion of its customers", the truth is it upset only part of a small demographic (I saw several articles/blog posts from gays that say they continue to support Chick Fil A - go figure!). And not only did it only upset a small group, it inspired a much larger group to come out and try Chick Fil A, probably for the first time. Will some of those people continue to frequent Chick Fil A in the months/years to come? I assume that at least some of them will. Only time will tell (check out their next quarterly earnings report) whether this was a financial disaster or a stroke of marketing genius.
Teller of Truth August 02, 2012 at 07:36 PM
It was a record setting day for Chick-Fil-A! I for one, bought $100 worth of gift cards in support of their free speech. Interestingly enough that Bill Norris' opening statements were about being "right" as in right winged. Now I'd like to add about being 'RIGHT' as opposed to being 'wrong'.There will ALWAYS be MORE people backing the freedom of speech than backing gay rights.
John Fentoala August 02, 2012 at 08:04 PM
What about the "hatemongers" who boycotted JC Penny's after Ellen was made its spokesperson? Same exact thing, one person's freedom of speech then denounced by those with a different opinion. This is not hatemonging, this is freedom of speech, and both sides are allowed to express it anyway they want, without crossing the line into violence.
Teller of Truth August 02, 2012 at 08:36 PM
Why do they even bring it up? There are plenty of 'gays' that don't try & ram it down your throat. I liked the idea of don't ask & don't tell. It's really nobodys business is it? I think there are just so many loud mouth people out there that aren't sure of who they are, pick a side & try to make everyone say they're wonderful! I've never read a tee shirt that said "Hey I'm heterosexual! Aint it great!" I've never seen a "hetero PRIDE fest". Have you? IF they're so happy & GAY, then why do they come across so hateful & angry?
T 22 August 02, 2012 at 09:10 PM
What does LGBT stand for? I get the LGB, but can't figure out the T.
Teller of Truth August 02, 2012 at 09:17 PM
Ask Andy, heshe will tell you.
Anon August 03, 2012 at 12:23 AM
Anon August 03, 2012 at 12:25 AM
I think Bill Norris spoke too soon!
jill smith August 03, 2012 at 02:10 AM
No one has a right to bully another, and tell them what they should believe, then threaten to boycott their business, for having the courage to stand up for their beliefs. That applies to LGBT and heterosexual. Live and let live.
jill smith August 03, 2012 at 05:38 AM
@ AG, he sure did!
jane August 03, 2012 at 05:14 PM
Only one person brought up that the exact same thing happened with JC Pennys. When they announced their new ad campaign included Ellen DeGeneres, the Christian community went nuts. One group in particular, A Million Moms, have an ongoing boycott of Pennys. So that is wrong according to every here who insists they are not anti-gay, they are just against those who try to shut down another free speech, right? Cause it does go both ways.
Roberto August 04, 2012 at 03:54 AM
Gay or Straight....mind your own damm business. Freedom of Religion & Freedom of speech. Boycotting a business that does not discriminate against gays in their service or hiring practices is nobody's business. Two lesbian frogs on a first date, one looks at the other and says... "you taste like Chic-fil-A! The other lesbian frog looks over and asked are those Mcnuggets?
Charles Ferrell August 04, 2012 at 02:59 PM
I think the Chick-Fil-A deal was a free speech issue and Chick-Fil-A winds up the big winner. My wife and I drove by the one location in Redlands we know of on Aug. 1, and the line of cars for the drive-thru was backed up well down the street and there were at least 100 people in line outside the place waiting just to get inside. The call for the boycot was a free speech issue and the the call to support free speech and oppose the boycot was also a free speech issue. In the end, everybody got their say, and except for a bomb threat and some vandalism, there wasn't any violence. It was just a bunch of caring Americans practicing their free speech. This wasn't a "just in America" happening, but this is one of things America is all about and what I love so much about America. I much prefer the "I'm right, you're wrong" philosophy that was on display here vs. the "I'm right, you're stupid," talk one hears so much in media these days. The big winner was Chick-Fil-A which picked up a whole bunch of new customers, but the other big winner was America itself. Free speech works here. This is a prime example of how Americans respond to attacks on free speech.
jill smith August 04, 2012 at 09:30 PM
I think your right Charles. According to Forbes Chick FIL A made 100 mill that day, you wont hear about that in the main stream media. It's good to know Americans are out their and willing to stand up for free speech. Some would like you to think Americans are a bunch of brainwashed idiots glued to their tv"s ....... No that is just not the truth. Our leaders suck, but I have great faith in the American people.
Wm Kabrich August 04, 2012 at 10:33 PM
ElectraDaddy-- Yes the GiBLTs and their community can boycott all they like. The real protest was about the Mayor of Boston & San Francisco saying that Cathy couldn't have an opinion in their towns. That was the biggest form of bigotry and intolerance around.
Wm Kabrich August 04, 2012 at 10:39 PM
Ok Daddy O He supports other organizations. So who may or may not like the GiBLTs. What does that matter??? Following your logic African Americans shouldn't support the Democrats because they formed the KKK, and supported slavery.
Anon August 04, 2012 at 11:07 PM
I remember Obama being against Gay Marriage just a little while ago! I loved how he saved coming out for it before his election. At least Mr Cathy doesn't lie! To all you people on here that call Mr Cathy a hater or. Bigot, it has nothing to do with that. Grow up!
Michael August 05, 2012 at 06:47 PM
You're exactly right, 90 days ago Obama was against it. But all the Democrats that don't have any convictions got their usual amnesia over the issue. Catholics & Christians don't like GM- people need to get over that and respect OUR opinion.


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